The dangers of Microsoft Pluton (updated)

In upcoming Intel, Qualcomm, and AMD processors, there is going to be a new chip, built-in to the CPU/SoC silicon die, co-developed by Microsoft and AMD called the Pluton. Originally developed for the Xbox One as well as the Azure Sphere, the Pluton is a new security (cynical reader: DRM) chip that will soon be included in all new Windows PCs, and is already shipping in mobile Ryzen 6000 chips.

This new chip was announced by Microsoft in 2020, however details of what it was actually capable of, and what it actually means for the Windows ecosystem were kept frustratingly vague. Now with Pluton rolling out in some AMD chips, it is possible to put together a cohesive story of what Pluton can do from several disparate sources.

Because Microsoft’s details are sparse, this article will attempt to summarize all that we now know regarding Pluton. It may contain inaccuracies or speculation, but any potential inaccuracy or speculation will be called out where possible. If there are inaccuracies that result in more, better information being found, so be it.

What’s inside Pluton?

Pluton encompasses several functions. I’ll be throwing out the acronyms first and some of their meanings and effects later in the article:

  • A full TPM 2.0 implementation, developed by Trusted Computing Group (TCG)
  • SHACK (Secure Hardware Cryptography Key) implementation
  • DICE (Device Identifier Composition Engine) implementation, also designed by TCG
  • Robust Internet of Things (RIoT) specification compliance, a specification developed by Microsoft and announced with almost no fanfare all the way back in 2016

However, besides these functions, Pluton implements the full breadth of security improvements that Microsoft used to only have on the Windows 10 Secured-Core PC systems. A Pluton system is a superset of the Secured-Core PC specification which was previously only on select systems. A Secured-Core PC requires the following additional technology measures that were not previously required for a standard PC:

  • Dynamic Root of Trust for Measurement (DRTM)
  • System Management Mode (SMM) (edit: with Device Guard, regular computers have long had SMM)
  • Memory Access Protection (Kernel DMA Protection, protects against Plundervolt Thunderspy)
  • Hypervisor Code Integrity (HVCI)

Edit: See update at the bottom of post, the overlap of Secure Core and Pluton is currently somewhat unclear.

Also, starting this year, new Secured-Core PCs (and Pluton PCs by extension?) will also be required to drop support for the Microsoft 3rd-party UEFI Secure Boot Certificate Authority by default. This means that the shim bootloader used for booting some Linux OSs will no longer be trusted without flipping a switch in the UEFI firmware, which may partly be why Lenovo and Dell have announced they are keeping Pluton disabled by default. However, this might not do much in the long run, as will be explored below.

It is important to note that Pluton is very much like the Secure Enclave or TrustZone systems on macOS/iOS/Android systems, with a full (secure) CPU core, its own small onboard RAM, ROM, RNG, fuse bank, and so forth. For (obvious) security reasons, Pluton only boots officially-signed Microsoft firmware and carries anti-downgrade protections inherited from the Xbox. On non-Windows systems like Linux, Pluton quietly degrades into only a generic TPM 2.0 implementation.

A lot of acronyms, but what is the big picture?

In a nutshell, Microsoft believes they need to exercise more control over PC Security than previously. This came up with Windows 11, which infamously required 8th Gen or newer CPUs, TPM 2.0, and Secure Boot capability. At the time, there was (and still is) much concern regarding the almost arbitrary nature of the requirements.

However, while Microsoft was terrible at defining why certain CPUs made the cut and others didn’t (like why no Zen 1?), Ars Technica noticed a pattern:

Windows 11 (and also Windows 10!) uses virtualization-based security, or VBS, to isolate parts of system memory from the rest of the system. VBS includes an optional feature called “memory integrity.” That’s the more user-friendly name for something called Hypervisor-protected code integrity, or HVCI. HVCI can be enabled on any Windows 10 PC that doesn’t have driver incompatibility issues, but older computers will incur a significant performance penalty because their processors don’t support mode-based execution control, or MBEC.

And that acronym seems to be at the root of Windows 11’s CPU support list. If it supports MBEC, generally, it’s in. If it doesn’t, it’s out. MBEC support is only included in relatively new processors, starting with the Kaby Lake and Skylake-X architectures on Intel’s side, and the Zen 2 architecture on AMD’s side—this matches pretty closely, albeit not exactly, with the Windows 11 processor support lists.

Windows 11, by (almost) requiring MBEC, TPM 2.0, Secure Boot capability, and so forth is in every way trying to get people used to a Pluton-lite experience, as “Pluton-y” as possible without actually having Pluton yet. Windows 11 is the “stepping stone” to Pluton with security requirements to match. With Windows rumored to return to the 3-year version cycle with Windows 12 in ~2024, and with Microsoft clearly being less afraid of cutting off large swaths of old PCs, it would not shock me if Windows 12 makes Pluton a system requirement. Windows 10 for old systems, Windows 11 for systems not quite there, Windows 12 for the endgame.

Anything more I should know about what Pluton aims to do?

I’ve thrown out the acronyms for those interested in further reading, but what are the design goals behind those acronyms?

Microsoft originally developed Pluton for the Xbox, but also for the Azure Sphere. When they developed the Azure Sphere chip for secure IoT Devices, they designed it to be in compliance with their “Seven Properties of Highly Secure Devices“:

Microsoft also in that document shares how Pluton was integrated with this MediaTek IoT Chip, which looks probably pretty similar to how it is being integrated in Intel/AMD/Qualcomm:

It is not perfectly possible to implement Azure Sphere levels of security in a Windows PC. On Azure Sphere, a device becomes permanently locked to one manufacturer’s account permanently and only runs one app, with absolutely no ability to boot alternative apps or operating systems. Microsoft is no doubt going to need to compromise Pluton for general-purpose computing, but by how much…

All put together, what are the effects on me when Pluton arrives?

  1. You will no longer be able to install Linux with Pluton enabled unless the Microsoft 3rd-party UEFI Certificate is enabled in your UEFI Firmware. See Microsoft’s 7 Principles #5. (Also see update below at bottom of post – this status is ambiguous as Pluton and Secured Core kind of overlap.)
  2. Pluton will integrate with Windows Update at least for system firmware, potentially allowing for some forms of drivers to be updated as well as potentially having downgrade prevention. This may partly be why Windows 11 has new driver requirements (DCH compliance). See Microsoft’s 7 Principles #3, #6, and possibly #7.
  3. With SHACK, Secret Keys will be able to be stored in hardware and be able to encrypt and decrypt material without the key ever being exposed to firmware or software. This allows for a potentially stronger BitLocker… or just plain old DRM. See Microsoft’s 7 Principles #2.
  4. DICE+RIoT is where the rubber really hits the road. In Microsoft’s documentation of what RIoT can do:

Meanwhile, DICE appears to share a lot of the same goals as RIoT:

DICE and RIoT appear to be different parts of the same solution: Providing a device-specific key and assertion capabilities. What’s more, consider when it is combined with SMM and DRTM:

Why is a DICE+RIoT+SMM+DRTM sandwich so potentially extremely dangerous? Imagine if you are a game developer who wants to prevent cheating. According to IEEE’s interpretation, it could be possible to use Pluton to irrefutably verify (aka “assert”) that:

  1. The device is running Windows,
  2. The device is up-to-date or recently updated,
  3. The device has not had Secure Boot disabled or tampered with

Part #3 is most important. When you combine #3, the ability to have the Pluton security processor assert that the device has booted with Secure Boot in accordance with Microsoft’s 7 Principles #5 using the sandwich, and a potential custom kernel module for anti-cheat, you have successfully proven cryptographically:

  1. The device has securely booted,
  2. Your kernel module has loaded,
  3. Your kernel module, and Windows itself, has absolutely not been tampered with in any way
  4. Windows is up-to-date with all or most security features enabled,
  5. By having Hypervisor-powered Code Integrity through HVCI/MBEC, injecting code will be extremely difficult even if the code is flawed or contains exploits

If you were a DRM designer, you would probably be drooling. No more workarounds or hacks – its an on-silicon, Xbox-proven solution, now on Windows. Microsoft, of course, doesn’t want to talk about that use-case and says that it will primarily be used by their Azure Attestation Service and allowing businesses to keep devices up-to-date and secure, but the road to Hell is paved with good intentions. As IEEE has noted citing personal conversations with Microsoft Engineers, any attestation service could use Pluton for their own ends, as DICE+RIoT are both open standards for this kind of thing. In fact, Microsoft’s use of open standards for assertions might make this more dangerous in my opinion.

(Note: Please see later in post for edits regarding TPM capabilities)

Doomsday and “Fearmongering” Speculations Below – Objectively verified knowledge ends here

What is to prevent school WiFi from one day requiring a Pluton assertion that your Windows PC hasn’t been tampered with before you can join the network? As far as I can tell from the above specifications, there is no reason, assuming that the school had the ability to provide a connection client app before connecting.

Microsoft’s other use of DICE+RIoT, in their own words, is to enable “Zero Trust Computing.” By giving every device the ability to have secret keys completely out of reach of the main processor (see 7 Security Principles #2 and #5), it is theoretically possible to create documents, messages, and other content that is completely unreadable except by a specific device using a key that cannot be extracted from that device.

Imagine thus, a different scenario from the game developer. Imagine a (maybe corrupt) government agency or business. In the not-too-distant future, the following could be possible with Pluton (with some custom app development to streamline everything together):

  • All devices in the network have Pluton and are enrolled in Azure.
  • Every time a document is created and added to the network, it is added with a Pluton certificate verifying who created the document. Anonymous documents are kept off the network.
  • Every user in the organization is in Azure through Active Directory, and has specific devices attached to their User. Their User is enrolled in specific groups, such as Accounting or Legal.
  • Documents are encrypted through Azure to be only readable on specific client devices using the device-specific public key.
  • Thus, employees can read approved documents, but only on authorized systems.

To put this together, imagine this hypothetical scenario. A user in Legal creates a document. When the user uploads it, Azure verifies it against Pluton to both verify the document as being likely clean, and also to firmly establish who created it. When another user wants to download the document, Azure only provides a version that has been encrypted with the user’s Pluton public key if that user belonged in the right department, and thus only readable by that user.

  • These authorized systems could contain MDM (Mobile Device Management) measures that, thanks to Pluton with Secure Boot and physical attack protection, cannot be disabled. It also cannot easily have code injected or bypasses installed due to the Hypervisor. Pluton will also, in this situation, likely enforce BitLocker with an unknown unlock key.
  • The system is tamper-resistant and constantly updated, meaning that should a strict MDM policy be in place, extracting documents from a system without authorization could be potentially extraordinarily difficult to impossible.

Now, Microsoft might look at the above and laugh this off as fear mongering, as that is much further than what Pluton is being pitched as right now, as a firmware security device to prevent malware. However, how far away is it actually? If you can have Pluton verify a system as Securely booted without tampering, encrypt and decrypt material with an unextractable key, and connect to Azure for firmware updates, how much harder is it to add a secure mode to Microsoft Office that pulls it all together? You can’t hack Microsoft Office’s read-only or other protection modes if your MDM blocks external apps, the hypervisor prevents code injection, you can’t mess with Secure Boot without your keys getting invalidated, and your document is encrypted with a key only your device has that cannot be extracted.

The road to Hell is paved with good intentions. It looks as though Microsoft’s Next-Gen Secure Computing Base / Palladium project never really died.


A Linux Kernel engineer on Hacker News (@mjg59) claims that “Secured Core” PCs and Pluton are not synonymous. This would mean that certain features mentioned in the “Secured Core” list would not be present on all systems with Pluton.

I am currently unable to verify this claim (or my original view that the two were inseparable), due to the lack of hardware with Pluton out there, and also because it appears that (all?) hardware with Pluton also implements Secured Core right now, but perhaps Pluton w/o Secured Core systems will emerge. I am open to being incorrect on this though – as the lack of information regarding Pluton means I am stumbling in the dark for information.

I also currently do not buy his argument fully as of yet because he also argues most of what Pluton can do could also be implemented with just a TPM 2.0 chip. This may be true – however, this also leaves the actual purpose of Pluton unclear and possibly very redundant, and it doesn’t address what Microsoft means in their blog post by “chip-to-cloud” security that wasn’t possible before. If it wasn’t possible before, and is now, what changed if nothing changed? Is this Microsoft making a huge amount of fuss over just a remotely-updatable TPM 3.0?

The Kernel Engineer responded to that by stating that Pluton is a more-secure TPM, because it is built-in to the silicon, and because Microsoft wanted a more secure, easily updatable security chip than the Intel ME / AMD PSP which have had issues previously and are harder to update. This doesn’t make much sense to me – is it really hard to implement a separate TPM outside of ME/PSP that just does TPM things and gets Windows Updates? It’s really easier and more trustworthy just to add an entire new security processor to an actual chip CPU and adjust that design to various node sizes because Intel and AMD can’t implement any secure interfaces of their own? I don’t buy it. Intel would probably have vastly preferred that, then it could have just been marketed as a new vPro feature.

@mjg59 takes the view that Pluton is not (currently) a threat to user freedom, stating to my doomsday scenario:

(Edit: it’s been pointed out that I kind of gloss over the fact that remote attestation is a potential threat to free software, as it theoretically allows sites to block access based on which OS you’re running. There’s various reasons I don’t think this is realistic – one is that there’s just way too much variability in measurements for it to be practical to write a policy that’s strict enough to offer useful guarantees without also blocking a number of legitimate users, and the other is that you can just pass the request through to a machine that is running the appropriate software and have it attest for you. The fact that nobody has actually bothered to use remote attestation for this purpose even though most consumer systems already ship with TPMs suggests that people generally agree with me on that)

I do not agree with him on that and Hacker News considers that to be naive, and to me it screams “it could – but it won’t!,” but there is no reason he couldn’t be right. Read it as an optimistic scenario. It’s hard to be optimistic though when SafetyNet exists.

On that note however, there are some things that he has stated that are accurate that weren’t in the original story. This is not malice on my part (as, well, why would I update this blog to refer to his views?) but rather a lack of information:

  • Original version of this post believed that Pluton is a de-facto Secured Core PC implementation. This is corrected, we don’t know whether this is the case, and do not currently know of proof either way. I personally doubt that Microsoft intends “Secured Core” to remain around forever and won’t mandate parts of it slowly.
  • I misread the checkbox on the Microsoft documentation regarding SMM. SMM has been around forever, but Secured Core PCs require SMM with Device Guard whereas standard Windows does not – and Microsoft’s documentation for Secured Core then just has SMM (with Device Guard) unchecked on the requirements which I misread as no SMM. Oops.
  • Apparently DICE and extensions are a… simpler way of doing the exact same things as a TPM? I can’t quite follow why anyone would want that. He did not have much explanation for what Pluton needed RIoT for and (it appears) initially did not believe RIoT was in Pluton, but then he said it is probably just for IoT scenarios. I’m a skeptic. Could PCs one day be managed like IoT?
  • I think the engineer’s main criticism is that I got some details regarding TPM wrong (in that TPM is more capable than I thought), and that much of what is stated above can already be accomplished with just a TPM but hasn’t been (and, in his view, probably never will be, though I disagree and believe Pluton makes it easier in the future). In which case my “fear and despair” part was may have actually been underselling what Pluton specifically can do and means long-term.
  • Because of that, I think my new criticism of Pluton would be the following (which he has not responded to despite responding to others later multiple times):

At this point, even if a TPM can recreate much of Pluton’s functionality, I still believe some fear regarding Pluton is still necessary and healthy, although I do not dispute that for some uses it may be useful – after all, why was my fear mongering section explicitly labeled “Fearmongering and Doomsday speculations”? Microsoft can still screw people over, but Pluton is different from a TPM and should still be (generally) regarded with caution where possible, and more caution than a standard TPM.

This is mainly because, at this point,

A. A TPM’s level of access and capabilities to a system is well-known at this point. Pluton, we do not know with certainty what all of its capabilities are.

B. Microsoft has explicitly stated Pluton will have functionality added to it in the future though software updates, most likely that cannot be downgraded, that are not present yet. It’s not that Pluton might have stuff added later – Microsoft has said stuff will be added later. What these upgrades entail or are capable of is also unknown.

C. Because of the above, Pluton requires a previously-unknown level of trust for Microsoft, because Pluton almost certainly has anti-downgrade procedures. Microsoft could, potentially, send out an update just blocking Linux and if Pluton received the update, it would be irreversible. Maybe this isn’t within Pluton’s abilities, but we just don’t know. Just that Microsoft (or a hacker of Microsoft – I’m more concerned about a rogue employee than Microsoft at the moment) could have permanent effects on the security of a system is worth paying attention over.

D. Because of the reasons above, Pluton should be regarded with extra skepticism as it is a magical black box, with unknown capabilities, that it is not clear whether it can actually be disabled. (Already on my blog, there’s a user talking about how Pluton briefly boots and then disables itself if the UEFI says that it should be disabled, not that it never starts, so theoretically a Pluton update could ignore its own disable switch.) I don’t have verification of that, but until we know more… TPM is known, TPM can screw people, Pluton has the potential to extremely screw people over, and while many of my doomsday speculations can actually be recreated with just a TPM if TPMs are widely adopted, perhaps it could be enhanced with more Pluton-specific ones. Perhaps my doomsday predictions actually weren’t far enough.

Thus, your point that Pluton doesn’t add too much might be completely valid right now. That doesn’t mean Pluton isn’t also a potential Trojan horse that Microsoft updates as they please with new things that we didn’t expect or ask for with no ability to undo them.

Edit: Removed a previous edit, and adding that, to complement the above notes, it does not help instill confidence that Microsoft isn’t telling what Pluton can and cannot do at a hardware level. They’ve said a few things it can do right now, and just said more stuff will be coming in the future, but they won’t talk about where its limits are. So… trust the black box without questions please. To be fair, this isn’t the first time (Intel ME, AMD PSP?), but it is unsettling to have another one.

Published by Gabriel Sieben

Gabriel Sieben is a software developer from St. Paul, MN, who enjoys experimenting with computers and loves to share his various technology-related projects. He owns and runs this blog, and is a traditional Catholic. In his free time (when not messing with computers), he enjoys hiking, fishing, and board games.

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  1. I see much more sinister uses for the pluton scenario than just protecting data flow in a corporate environment. I would even agree that in this case it’s probably worth it. Home and advanced user will be stuffed if, and it happened before, hardware vendors forget to add a pluton switch to UEFI.

    No more unix/linux silliness! nothing beyond what MSFT allows for in Linux for Windows.

  2. I see this being driven mostly by Department of Defense initiatives for Zero Trust Computing in their arena. This could be important in secure environments or to protect confidential data. I don’t see this as fear-mongering at all and seems more real when you think of it in regards to confidentiality and integrity. All combined, I believe with the proper setup (availability provided by an Azure infrastructure) you now have non-repudiation built into hardware without the need for a traditional PKI.

    Though, I believe you could leverage PKI for two layers of security for your infrastructure where one layer handles the AAAI and the other ensures your hardware is tamper resistant. Whether they admit it or not, this feels like intelligence community courting.

    1. This is way beyond the clipper chip. This is Palladium on steroids and actually being implemented in shipping hardware.

      And to think old timers like me were once worried about the serial number in Pentium 3’s.

  3. I refuse to buy any new AMD chips now that they started using Pluton with Ryzen 6000, and its impossible to fully disable as Pluton is required to run to get the chips to post. Similar situation with Qualcomm, starting with the Snapdragon 8cx Gen 3 SoC’s they will be using Pluton.

    Intel so far has rejected the adoption of Pluton, despite what the opening sentence of this article says, and has never said it would adopt Pluton, as they already have TPP/TPM/vPro, which OEMs like Dell have said they prefer to use over Pluton. Intel’s own measures are far from perfect, but certainly the lesser evil when compared to Pluton, and Intel has a decade long track record for their measures.

    1. Hello,

      I updated the article with a more optimistic (even though I don’t agree with it) take by a Linux Kernel developer… who also actually works on stuff like this. He argues that a lot of this could be already accomplished using the TPM, which I don’t quite agree fully with though it’s also an interesting read.

      Intel, in the announcement back in 2020, actually had a statement: ““Intel continues to partner with Microsoft to advance the security of Windows PC platforms. The introduction of Microsoft Pluton into future Intel CPUs will further enable integration between Intel hardware and the Windows operating system.” – Mike Nordquist, Sr. Director, Commercial Client Security, Intel

      However, it has yet to materialize, possibly because it conflicts with their vPro division.

      I have not heard of Pluton not being able to be disabled, as it appears that Microsoft intends for it to be able to be disabled, and Lenovo and Dell are doing just that saying that it doesn’t match their vision for computer security. Maybe it is necessary to POST but if it is unloaded, it’s probably not any worse than the Intel ME which has been around since seemingly forever.

      I’m more pessimistic on the subject because to me, this is just the latest example of slowly boiling the frog. Sure, maybe some of its functionality could be accomplished with the TPM, but how many people had TPMs before versus now with Windows 11 requiring it? Why can’t Windows 12 just require Pluton to be enabled regardless of what the vendor defaults are? And if not immediately, what about in a decade?

  4. We could talk for years, write library of congress amount of articles but it all boils down to one simple phrase “You don’t control the keys”. End of discussion. You, the supposed “owner”, the one whom paid money for the device, have no rights not granted to you by the REAL owner (hint, it’s not you or me).

    Got it?

    You don’t own the keys. Simple as that.

    We’ve been talking about this since this was called Palladium… (and people like Stallman much further back than that) it didn’t go over well and few people paid attention. What happened in the time since? Everything and every device has received some form of DRM. Tesla cars, so-called smartphones (computers with DRM, especially iGarbage devices), and so on. It’s gotten worse.

    All in the name of terro— think of the chil— I mean “security”.

    We aren’t approaching 1984… we need a telescope to see it from our rear-view mirrors.

    Enjoy your dystopia. By design.

  5. Man you’re clueless, they already won in 1997 when you all bought client-server exe’s with ultima online and everquest in 1999, which were just PC games with stolen networking multiplayer. Of course it’s going to be abused, they wouldn’t have invented it if they didn’t intend on using it. They are killing win32, Win32 and DOS 16 exe’s were what enabled piracy to begin with, so microsoft and the media and content industries are killing it by removing control of our CPU’s under the guise of “Security” they are literally hacking the hardware and putting malware inside the CPU.

    Anyone who believes it’s for security is stupid.

    Forgetting that the internet is a giant motherboard to microsoft and software companies, they can finally enforce american draconian copyright law. The whole point was to take over the internet, everyone forgot the basic electronics law 101: Two or more circuits daisy chained together become a single circuit, aka two or more networked computers become and behave as a single device.

    So the only way to protect your “personal computer” is to reject steam, mmos, any client-server exe, that didn’t happen over the last 20+ years and Valve with steam, Microsoft with windows 10/11 knows it, everyone had their mind blown in 1997 with ultima onlikne when garriot got the public to steal software from itself. The fact we have server emulators for “mmos” like ultima online and earth above and beyond, is proof positive they never needed to be programmed without basic multiplayer inside the exe to begin with. It was an attack on game ownership.

    So Path of exile, League of legends, dota 2 was what the industry was working towards from 1997 onwards, to kill off local executables.

    So from 1997 to 2009 they stole PC games on massive scale under a range of marketing monikers (mmo, etc). The whole point was to take the big budget games and kill local text based exe’s, you can see how many they’ve stolen at crackwatch. It should include mmo’s, which were just PC games rebranded with stolen network multiplayer.

    If in doubt, see here with quake 2, the other “MMO” you were unaware of which required no user name, login account, or subscription.

    Go read the documents from WIP from 2003, they were planning this from the beginning.

    While the rebels have to do damage control over the last 20+ years as we restore the missing networking code to prerserve videogame history.

  6. I’m not sure what you expected. I warned people that they were doing a frog-in-boiling-water approach to locking out other operating systems all the way back in 2012 when Microsoft mandated Secure Boot. The next step after this is machines that can’t boot Linux from internal storage like the last Intel Mac Minis, or maybe they’ll just skip that and make secure boot undisable-able and only enroll the Windows key.

  7. ” this also leaves the actual purpose of Pluton unclear”

    Not unclear, it’s they’ve been doing a trial run with UWP games, the whole point is to kill win32, UWP was rebranded “win3”, the whole point is win32 executables were trivially easy to pirate and crack because they were honest C compiled exes, the whole point of shadow stack and memory guard is that they can renew encryption on exe’s if cracks are found, aka if there’s a bug that allows signed binaries to be run without “permission” they can blacklist the exe from running. Pirated software will simply refuse to run under the new Win3 executable model.

    They are fundamentally changing how exe’s work and input output. The whole point was to take control of the computers input output.

    Why do you think even mice and input devices need security certificates? Are you daft? The whole point is to close the “digital hole” that allowed piracy.

    The media and content industries will never give up.

  8. Gabriel Sieben , Your post is informative, but lacks the glaring part of this whole story. Pluton is about NOT TRUSTING THE USER.

    As in, MS doesn’t trust us to tell us all about Pluton. MS does not trust us to disable Pluton. MS does not trust us to update Pluton. MS does not trust us to feed Pluton our own secure keys.

    Granted, it’s more “secure”, but for who’s benifit? Only Microsoft’s. There is no room for debate about that at all since if it benefited us, except indirectly, and accidentally, then we’d have power over it. We’d be the “SYSTEM”, “Admin” or “root” user.

    Please continue to spread awareness of this. It’s even possible that people will not be able to access this post in the future because “It’s not been properly signed by a Pluton key.”


  9. I dont trust MS one bit!
    It isnt a BILLION dollar company for no reason.
    So you got a free MS 360 with your new device. Great! Until, sooner or later, you will hear from MS that you have “an account problem”.
    The problem turns out to be that you owe them $$ for using 360 now. This is essentially a ransom attack. It happened to me. I didnt pay up. Guess what happened next?
    MS managed to upload a trojan that my system didnt detect – until I was blocked from using my MS office apps.
    Basically, MS wants to own “your” device.
    Simple as this.
    Dont believe me? Just wait. Of course, many people wont care if MS owns “thier” computer. They will just pay the piper. And MS will continue to make billions of $$. One might think that this ransomware would be outlawed by the Govt. But no, like so many other inappropriate things, the govt just looks the other way. Like the US news, MS has become an agent of the US Govt.

  10. This article tells a good point, although I don’t 100% agree.
    The root cause of doomsday scenario here is not a technical standard.
    Corrupt government? It is political problem. Whether there is Pluton or not, there are simply too many ways that a corrupt government can control our life. Solution? We should never let government become that corrupt. Vote corrupt president out, vote corrupt members out of national assembly, etc.
    Corrupt business? It is buyers’ problem. If we don’t like their business practice, we shouldn’t buy their products. They should learn a lesson or go out of business.

    In my humble opinion, not having a technology is not solution to prevent bad things from happening. It is political system that should prevent them.
    Think about nuclear energy. Do you think it was mistake of scientists who discovered it? Or do you think it was politicians’ mistake to weaponize it?
    And by the way, from my (biased) point of view, Intel is the most dishonest company among them and Microsoft, AMD and Qualcomm. I don’t believe Intel is refusing Pluton for customers’ benefit.

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